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Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.05.12 16:42:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Tora Bushido wrote:You outnumbered us by 2-3 times and we are at war with the entire CFC and 125+ more wars. We are killing so many of you, because we know when to fight and when not to. Just like you did last night  And so far we are still killing you non stop. Noir and RvB ..... hehe  But no worries, I still like the Goonies for this great yearly event ! Onehundredtwentyplus wars??? What the... Yeah, but don't worry, he knows when to fight and when not to.
In docking range, neutral reppers, buffer to sustain at least a minute = fight. Anything else = don't fight.
The complexities of a "merc corp" like Marmite are not to be underestimated! It's just a shame they were "too busy" to fight in Burn Jita, I was looking forward to it. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.05.13 10:53:00 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:Marmites has never ****** a client before and will never do Marmites have clients? Nobody actually considers you to be a mercenary corp. You can't really count Gevlon as a client since he's your coalition leader.
And basically what you've said here is that you are fighting both sides... Pretty much what you are saying is bad and that you'd never do. Hypocrite. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.05.13 18:22:00 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:We even have clients in your own alliance and most other big 00 alliances. Mmmhmm, we must be paying you real well to guard Jita 4-4.
Tora Bushido wrote:As long as they don't ask to turn against our current clients or people who have been a client not that long ago, its ok. Oh, so kind like how Noir didn't do that anyway, right? Oh, wait, that's right, you're in Gevlon's coalition, so when Noir attacked you during Burn Jita (causing you to quit all attempts to agress goons, good job buddy), they were in fact attacking Gevlon's coalition. Now it makes sense. Next time he needs to be clearer about who his pets are.
Tora Bushido wrote:That's why we have around 100-150 regular clients who keep coming back to us. We hardly use the merc channel to get them. People know us and word of mouth helps a lot too. How do you think we can afford the 10B+/week dec fees ? I call bullshit. And let's see, supposedly Gevlon pays for 80% of your wardec fees outright, then you beg for donations to fill the rest. Oh I get it, everyone that donates is a "client", is that how you are working all this out?
Tora Bushido wrote:That's why I said, its ok for Noir RIP 2014 to take Goons as clients, we would do too, but not at the same time.  Right after contract is a grey area if you ask me. But thats just me. Every alliance should do as they please, just remember that without clients a mercenary alliance is a dead alliance. lol, Noir are far from dead, and anyone smart enough to be a relevant client can see though Gevlon's nonsense. I think a far worse fate for a "merc alliance" is when they become risk averse and fight on the undock with neutral reppers just in case. You guys barely qualify as a PVP alliance, let alone a merc alliance. You'd be too scared of losing your precious efficiency rating to actually fulfil a contract.
Tora Bushido wrote:And just in case you didnt know, we also have a lot of 0.0 players with mains and alts in Marmites. They know we do not do politics in here. We know them and we don't care. Yes also Goonies. Spies are useless in here as we hunt in small groups. We will work for almost anyone. I'm sure you would, as long as the usual prerequisite of being in the safety of a docking ring was met, and as long as your leader didn't get upset with you for it. You don;t want him coming down on you with one of his mean blog posts. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.14 07:20:00 -
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Fybs wrote:Ah Lucas I'm glad you think we just camp undocks buddy really I am. it helps with our image because if everyone thinks we do just that. I get to kill the idiots not in trade hubs. oh one last thing go ask cycle of two if we fight because we smashed there entire fleet while outnumbered 2-1. there's a video somewhere which clearly shows the fight not in jita or on a station. but hey you keep thinking what you do  Yes, I'm well aware that you guys went out of your way to make a little video to show you away from an undock. I'm sure it was done under heavy supervision too, since I know how quickly you guys get booted when efficiency starts to drop. It's quite laughable to think anyone takes you seriously. It's quite fitting that you guys got bought out as Gevlon's pet alliance, since you're nearly as tactically inferior as he is. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.05.14 07:45:00 -
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Fybs wrote:how much contact do you think iv ever had with gevlon? let me tell you NONE not one convo. I'm no ones pet (well maybe Toras  ) Lucas can you please show me where the bad gevlon touched you? oh and if you really think we rigged an entire fight a month ago just to prove you wrong today your more stupid then i thought buddy. Yes, yes, you do what Tora says right? And Tora does what Gevlon asks. He's your coalition leader. Kick and scream all you want, but he decides your agenda, that's plain to see.
And no, you didn't do that a month ago to prove it to me now, you did it to prove it to someone saying the same thing then.  The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.05.14 09:34:00 -
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Fybs wrote:God damn it your right Lucas. Everything i do is because gevlon told tora to tell me to do it. I couldn't leave the 4-4 if I wanted too  lol, see you say it like sarcasm, but you know it's fact. Gevlon commands Tora, Tora commands you, that's called the chain of command. You are trying to act as if that's not the case, but you know it's true. Or are you seriously trying to make people believe that you're all independent and that you have no leadership structure in Marmites whatsoever?
Since Gevlon bought Marmite, you guys have stuck strictly to his agenda. I mean it's no surprise since apparently 80% of your income comes directly from him, and the rest from charitable donations, but to suggest you are not under his control is laugable. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.14 11:30:00 -
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Fybs wrote:Okay I'm intrigued
Please tell me how and in what sense I'm being controlled?
No sarcasm but an honest question.
I want to see how much you think you really know about MYM8.
If you give me a honest answer il will reply with one Lucas I'm not sure what you mean. You are in Marmite, right, so you do what your alliance leadership tells you, right? Or are you claiming that in Marmite you all act completely independently, with no leadership structure in place?
Tora Bushido wrote:Who is this Gevlon people keep talking about ? Isn't that the guy running Darwin Lemmings ? I cant remember me saying he is related to Marmites. And if he is Marmites client, we wouldn't tell you. Lol, cut the crap. Everyone here knows that you and General Lemming are one and the same, and it's plain to see that you do whatever Gevlon tells you to. And you don't need to tell us whether or not he is a client, he has published all of the information on his blog (you know, the same place he does your performance appraisals like a manager does). It's pretty clear that you take your orders from him buddy.
Tora Bushido wrote:@Alex and Lucas : I can explain it to you every day, but it would be as useless as, explaining to a brick how to sing. If the receiving end doesn't get it by now, he wont get it tomorrow. But no worries, maybe in a few years, when you are all big boys, you will understand it.  LOL. Yeah, that must be it. We don't "get it". Seriously guy, you've never been good at all of this smacktalking, so there's no point in trying. And lets face it, actions speak louder than words, and your actions show a risk averse group of gankers claiming to be "mercs", while being funded almost entirely by Gevlon, following his every command and begging for donations on the side. No matter how many times you say "no but, we're relevant, honest" it won't change those easily verifiable actions. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.05.14 13:12:00 -
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Fybs wrote:*large sperg about being some kind of ninja icebergs*
I'm sorry Lucas but Marmite was going way before gevlon and will do so when he goes. also don't forget we was already at war with goons/CFC before all of this anyway. gevlon could see we are good at what we do so it's was a no brainer for him. Yes, I'm sure you are super amazing, and I'm sure that why when Marmites are referred to as mercs, most people just laugh at the thought. It's a good thing you can hide behind the "we've got clients but we can't tell you anything" thing, otherwise the truth of the matter might start to leak out.
I've seen your KB, and the vast majority of your kills are mass ganks, generally in a docking ring or at a startgate. But again, actions speak louder than words. If you are as good as you say you are, how come you ran away from Burn Jita? How come you are begging for donations, and why do you have to have a steady stream of income from Gevlon to maintain your wardecs?
And sure, you existed before, and you were even less relevant than you are now. When Gevlon bought you out, you gained a bit of income to keep you propped up, and your coalition was formed. Now under the leadership of Gevlon, your agenda is set. No matter how much you claim otherwise, what Gevlon decides the Marmites should do is what they do, because he owns you.
Funny though that you feel the need to defend yourselves so strongly though. If your business was as strong as you claim, you'd see no need to repeatedly try to state how powerful you are. Surely your actions would speak for themselves. Of course, we have the reality though don't we? All you have is talk, so when that's taken into question you have to leap to defensive positions. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.14 13:31:00 -
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Fybs wrote:Never go full ****** Lucas  I don't need to defend us that's why I hardly ever post here. you know nothing about us and probably never will but hey it's cool keep posting your nonsense. il still log on tonight and go hunt my war targets  mmmhmmm, no need at all it seems... Thanks for the heads up, I'll be sure to avoid Jita 4-4. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.05.14 14:09:00 -
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Fybs wrote:If you did actually check my own K/B you would clearly see hardly any jita kills but you stay away none the less mate  You're right! You venture as far away as Uedama to go 3 on 1 against noobie frigates. Is this supposed to be evidence of your mad skills?
Fybs wrote:oh and you keep banging on about burn jita well here's a few questions for you. did everyone have clean clones? did anyone actually pay for there ships? would you have cared if you had died 20 times that day/week end? I already know the answer to them questions BTW. I would have had to kill a ton of you while be vastly out numbered just make it worth my time not to mention deal with the lag. there was no point at all going into jita at that time because you was there to lose ships anyway. if I new it would have bothered you then maybe I would have  Risk/Reward mate you wasn't worth the risk for no reward simple. Nope (but most), Very few people (less than 1% I'd say), and nope, we aimed to die. But the fact is there was such sperg about how much you were going to do and how we were going to be shut down, and what happened on the day? You ran screaming for cover. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.14 14:26:00 -
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Fybs wrote:Strange who told you we was going to shut you down?
Was it Gevlon our glorious leader who tells us what to do? That was one source of it, yes. Other sources were Tora Bushido and his alt General Lemming. I think they referred to it as Burn CFC IIRC. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.05.14 14:31:00 -
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Fybs wrote:well if that's the case i don't read my mails and i must be a bad pet of gevlons for ignoring his orders  That'll come up in your next performance appraisal I'm sure.
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Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.05.14 14:59:00 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:I sometimes wonder if Lucass really believes all this crap he writes or is he just laughing his ass off while writing them ? I hope it is the last one.  Marmite dont beg for isks, we have enough \o/ You may just never know :D
Either way, there's plenty of evidence to support the claims, and very little going against them. And lol, sure you do. I mean you do it under the Lemmings name so you can separate it from the Marmite name, but you do beg for donations. There's a thread about it an everything. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.05.14 16:34:00 -
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Fybs wrote:Hang on a minute! I thought you said gevlon pays for all our wars? so why would tora ask us for Isk? (more like me ask him I'm skint) P.S iv never heard Tora beg for anything  He's not asking for donations from you, he's got a begging thread on here. Here in fact. Funnily enough, Gevlon posted begging posts on his blog at the same time. While he does pay for the majority of the wars (I think 80% was the figure he gave), there's the donation thing to take care of the smaller ones.
Fybs wrote:Tell you what Lucas lets test your theory about me being gevlons pet....
@ gevlon
oi gevee chuck me a couple bil I'm skint over here oh glorious leader!
@ Lucas
if gevlon does send me Isk (I very much doubt it) then il quit marmite tonight and il be your pet Lucas! I don't think you understand how leadership works. It's not that they give you isk whenever you want it, it's that they make the rules and you follow. The only way you'll display that Marmite is independent of Gevlon is if Gevlon says "jump" and you don't on more than a trivial request. To date you guys have followed his every order. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.05.20 12:15:00 -
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Danalee wrote:Alekseyev Karrde wrote:This is the first time i really noticed it getting a bit "next level" But Alek, you are quoting your own propaganda? Weren't you (like Marmites and others) hired by mister Goblin? Oh no, you think since you scammed him(double dipped and got cought) you no longer fall under the category of people hired by Gevlon, fact of the matter is; You do. D.  That's the difference though. Gevlon hired Noir, but he owns Marmite.
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Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.05.20 13:10:00 -
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Danalee wrote:Pics or STFU. D.  :D It's not exactly something you can take screenshots of, but needless to say their relationship is definitely a leader - follower relationship rather than a client - merc relationship. Gevlon is Martmite's Mittani, but a bit of a moron too. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.05.20 13:40:00 -
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Fybs wrote:What on earth is this dribble coming from you Lucas didn't we already go over this? all il say is if marmite dropped gevlon as a client then nothing would change for us. we would carry on doing our thing as always  Yes, and like we covered last time, you would say that, wouldn't you? Regardless of the truth, regardless of the blindingly obvious evidence to the contrary. The fact it you couldn't drop Gevlon as a "client" because he bought your alliance. He is your coalition leader.
But by all means, carry on beating your chest and screaming "We're independent, honest!" while continuing to jump every time he says jump. No matter how many times you say it, it will continue to be plain to see that he's the one calling all the shots. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.05.20 15:09:00 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:@Lucas : If Gevlon owns us and we own you, they it must be that Gevlon owns you too  You own me? In what reality do you own me? See this is falling back on your usual problem here, where your argument is obvious nonsense. Since you are unable to counter as you are in fact Gevlon's pets, all you can do is talk smack. Good job buddy. Maybe your leader will even give you a pat on the back. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.05.20 15:31:00 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:@Lucas : If Gevlon owns us and we own you, they it must be that Gevlon owns you too  General Lemming wrote:Confirming TNT has smart players.  @Lucas, Gevlon already owns you, you just don't understand why yet  See you in The Bastion soon  So does the propaganda mean more just because you post it twice? The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.05.20 16:21:00 -
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Fybs wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Tora Bushido wrote:@Lucas : If Gevlon owns us and we own you, they it must be that Gevlon owns you too  You own me? In what reality do you own me? See this is falling back on your usual problem here, where your argument is obvious nonsense. Since you are unable to counter as you are in fact Gevlon's pets, all you can do is talk smack. Good job buddy. Maybe your leader will even give you a pat on the back. This is so funny I can't stop laughing  Thanks Lucas your a funny guy *You're.
And thanks. Not really sure which part is funny, but thanks nonetheless. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |
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Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.05.20 16:34:00 -
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Fybs wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Fybs wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Tora Bushido wrote:@Lucas : If Gevlon owns us and we own you, they it must be that Gevlon owns you too  You own me? In what reality do you own me? See this is falling back on your usual problem here, where your argument is obvious nonsense. Since you are unable to counter as you are in fact Gevlon's pets, all you can do is talk smack. Good job buddy. Maybe your leader will even give you a pat on the back. This is so funny I can't stop laughing  Thanks Lucas your a funny guy *You're. And thanks. Not really sure which part is funny, but thanks nonetheless. Damn the grammar police  okay from the top Lucas can you show me any evidence you have on us being gevlon's pets and/or leader without linking his blog? 3...2.....1.... go You mean other than you following his every command like a good puppy? Look at the actions of your alliance leader and his alt. Every move is to follow Gevlon's strict agenda. He's not a client, he's your commander. He commands, you follow. Those actions alone are evidence.
Of course there's going to be no evidence I can provide to you since you're purposely asking knowing it's something that actions alone prove, and you refuse to accept those actions as evidence. Luckily, it doesn't matter, because no matter how much you kick and scream, everyone knows that Gevlon is the Marmite coalition leader. I don't need to prove anything to you. If you want to believe that Tora is making your decisions, that's entirely up to you. The rest of us have reality. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.05.20 16:49:00 -
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Danalee wrote:Lucas, I'll put it bluntly, you being all over this as "spokesperson" of the CFC is translated among hisec dwellers as a sign that we are loosing it (whatever it may be). Please at least consider the effects of your ham fisted attempts at trolling. You are making us all look bad and that makes me sads  LOL First off, that whole spokesperson thing is a load of rubbish and you know it.
Secondly, I'd say that you, being a member of the CFC, running around sucking up to Gevlon and Tora is a tad more of an issue.
Thirdly, I'm not trolling. Gevlon commands, they follow. I'm sorry if following someones every command qualifies and being led to me, but that's the way it is. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.05.20 17:04:00 -
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Danalee wrote:A)Nope... It's EXACTLY what you appear to be doing. Really? Doesn't seem that way to me. Seems that my coalition isn;t really the topic here. Seems to me that you are the one bringing that up, I'm simply pointing out the facts about Marmite.
Danalee wrote:B)Nope, I (being recent ex-marmite) am 200% better qualified and justified to try and put a brake on your sperging. Wrong. You being ex Marmite means absolutely nothing with that regard, but since Marmite are anti-CFC (due to Gevlons lead) and you are CFC, then sucking up to Marmite at every turn makes people question your loyalties.
Danalee wrote:C)Not trolling? Client<->merc relations make your brain blackout when certain mercs are involved? LOL so in your mind Gevlon has just hired Marmite to do everything he says, when he says it, and without question, be performance graded by him, push his agenda, back his posts and spread his propaganda. Yeah, sound like someone buying an alliance to me. Certainly doesn't sound like a merc contract.
Honestly, I don't care. Say what you want, people who aren't sucking up to Marmites can see the plain truth. You being so eager to defend them only strengthens that, since f it was unfounded it would need no defense. I can't really be bothered with the usual 2000 posts we get into. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.06.02 10:49:00 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:You don't have the time for that Alex. Now go scam some more of your clients or hire more mercs to do the work you cant handle  You could always make another pod cast, invite people who kiss your ass, so you can keep thinking how awesome you are. FAIL  lol Kids rageposting is always funny. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.06.02 13:01:00 -
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Radric Davids wrote:Tora Bushido wrote:Alekseyev Karrde wrote:I wish i could say i'm surprised Marmite would recruit Rebirth's leadership core. But im not. Looking forward to that drama time bomb  You don't have the time for that Alex. Now go scam some more of your clients or hire more mercs to do the work you cant handle  You could always make another pod cast, invite people who kiss your ass, so you can keep thinking how awesome you are. FAIL  I have never seen a smackdown so well accentuated with smiley faces That was a smackdown? I thought it was Tora's usual sputum delivered in his usual playground style. The only thing he was missing is the comment from his alt, General Lemming, patting himself on the back for a job well done. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.06.03 09:36:00 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:Alex, you are like a little scared kid, shouting against the world...... "Why are they so evil !!?" Just because your brain doesn't understand the things happening in the big evil world, don't think the rest of the world is .... euhhh...well..... special too.  But no worries my funny little special friend, you are still amusing to observe.  (Smilie added for drama and to confuse Alex's "brain"). That's like a 2/10 comeback at best after you got dunked. Go check with your leader to see if that's a good enough performance. Maybe try making a little more sense, maybe try a bit of articulation, perhaps even try coming across as an adult. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.06.03 10:22:00 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:Quoted by Lucas is always a 10/10 \  /. @reddit guys : The rumor we are in wh space..... All lies to make us look bad. We are only on the Jita 4-4 ! lol, you mean the 11% one of your guys did to a mobile depot in his cloaky Tengu? Careful WH dwellers, you're in for it now, lol.
You'd really need to stop 99% of your killboard being in hub systems pipe systems to be able to start smacktalking about how amazing you are. Sneaking a Tengu in to ***** on a few kills isn;t going to foll anyone. Maybe actually fighting some people without 15 neutral logi and perhaps not getting dunked by other merc corps might help your image.
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Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.06.13 15:58:00 -
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Yup, pay Marmite to sit on the Jita undock and run away whenever someone undocks with a gun. If you are super lucky they will even ask their boss, Gevlon Goblin, to include you in one of his blog posts! The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.06.15 00:18:00 -
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Nikaroo wrote:Oh boy. Every time I have a brief look at the Merc Posts in this forum IGÇÖm so glad we donGÇÖt have to kill any trees for this. This is a merc thread?
Sol epoch wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Yup, pay Marmite to sit on the Jita undock and run away whenever someone undocks with a gun. If you are super lucky they will even ask their boss, Gevlon Goblin, to include you in one of his blog posts! Somebody needs a hug! Your continued roll out of the same obsessive quotes is sad very sad. I have to say you need to get a new violin as this one is out of tune. All the time it remains fact I'll continue to roll it out. Tryhard comebacks and schoolyard insults are just a bonus. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

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Tora Bushido wrote:And Alex, you might want to check your security, as it sucks. And you're assuming yours is spot on?  The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |
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Tora Bushido wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Tora Bushido wrote:And Alex, you might want to check your security, as it sucks. And you're assuming yours is spot on?  I know we have spies and we also know who they are. But sometimes its good to use them  To say I very much doubt that is an understatement, but then you never were the brightest spark.
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Purity by Fire wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Yup, pay Marmite to sit on the Jita undock and run away whenever someone undocks with a gun. If you are super lucky they will even ask their boss, Gevlon Goblin, to include you in one of his blog posts! Trying to remember the last time I sat on a Jita undock. Considering Jita is the main trade hub in EvE you really think Marmites will leave that system alone?. Yes we camp pipes and search out fast strikes off them. End of the day we get kills in all the right places.  lol, you can beat around the bush all you want. You camp low risk areas so you can buff your efficiency by killing things that stand no chance while under the cover of neutral logi. You seem to think that if you can get your kill stats up people won't look at the actual content of the kills and just go "WOW AMIGAHDZ U R S LEETZ". To call what you guys do PvP is a large stretch. I've seen you guys go 5 on 1 vs a noobship, then run away when a single cruiser undocks.
Tora Bushido wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:To say I very much doubt that is an understatement, but then you never were the brightest spark. Are you trying to hurt my feelings  We all know you aren't that smart Lucas, but you get a hug for trying  (and 2 smilies). Awww he's trying to bat it away with bad comebacks. How cute. Ah well, at some point you'll get the hint, I'm sure. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

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Madame Trout wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Tryhard comebacks and schoolyard insults are just a bonus. Lucas Kell wrote:but then you never were the brightest spark. This is golden. That's a statement of fact, not an insult. Out of all of the traits Tora possesses, unfortunately smarts aren't one of them. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

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Sol epoch wrote:Lucas you really need to look back over the past couple of posts you made as you are digging such a large hole showing your obsession that even international rescue wouldn't be able to get you out. ISD Ezwal will be along soon to sweep up the popcorn. I had a look at your personal KB by the way and fell off my chair with the sheer volume of your experience in PVP. lol, I'm sure he will, since Tora usually reports any criticism as off topic. Can;t have silly things like the truth getting in the way of you guys pretending to be mercs eh?
And yes, I'm an industrialist and generally a logi pilot in fleets, so I don't expect and neither do I claim to have a good killboard. I could do what you guys do and pad it out with 10 on 1 T1 industrial kills and 5 on 1 noobship kills, but I don't think padding a killboard so I can go "look at these numbers FAP FAP FAP" shows any level of skill.
Did Gevlon get involved in writing that, since that's about his usual level of math. "If I take some numbers, add a whole bunch of assumptions, carry the one and take away rand(), we're doing great!". The fact remains that your killboard clearly shows kills in safe system where you commonly camp gates or stations in large numbers. The kills are generally mission ships, haulers, miners and the like. Very few of your kills are actual combat ships and the ones that are are often way outnumbered. I have watch you first hand running from odds even remotely approaching even and seem you guys light up the neutral logi when things don't go your way. To suggest you are even remotely competent is ludicrous.
And you have to bear in mind, no matter how much you kick and scream about how amazing you are, people can see the facts for themselves.
And sure, SMA have lost some random ships to you. and what, 65% of it is industrial ships? 15% pods? Sure, you are mega pr0! I wish I could kill things that have no guns on them too! lol Seriously, you and your boss need to stop basing absolutely everything on numbers alone. There's this thing called context which actually matters. Ganking industrial ships doesn't make you an elite PVPer. If it did, I'm definitely an elite PVPer from burn Jita alone. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

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Seraph IX Basarab wrote:I never understood why people *coughlucascough* go on and on about bad mouthing marmite for being in Jita or killing industrial ships. They show a severe lack of comprehending basic Eve mechanics and laws. It's like the people that start threads about being ganked in highsec or having their assets stolen. "How could this happen!? This isn't right!" Just sort of a total disconnect from what the game is. It's not how they fight, it's that they and their almighty leader Gevlon then proceed to chestbeat and tell everyone how superior they are for it. Nobody gives a crap about a group of gankers saying "look at my killboard, want to touch my epeen?"
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:Here's the deal, nobody cares if Marmite is "elite pvp." What they care about is that when they give money to Tora, that money makes it so that whoever they are hired to fight, doesn't get to comfortably move through highsec to any of the major trade hubs. That's an important tactical factor. Most importantly, nobody cares how they do it so long as they do it. Results matter, that's it. You mean there are really people out there who think they are actually mercs and actually pay them to do stuff? There's at least half a dozen merc corps out there who could actually pose a threat and who you would actively avoid. Marmite wardecs pretty much just mean I roll with a combat alt ahead of me so they all dock up. Who pays for mercs that can't actually fight? If you just want people ganked, there's groups that will do that for free.
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Yourmoney Mywallet wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:To suggest you are even remotely competent is ludicrous. Clearly, 15 trill in destroyed ISK is a sign of incompetence. Uh huh. Lucas Kell wrote:There's this thing called context which actually matters. The context is: 15 trill in destroyed ISK. That's pretty much the Alpha and Omega right there. Not that I really think you know what that means, but there you go. It's certainly not a sign of competence, it's a sign that they can gank people in industrial ships. You have to be pretty dumb to look at a single number and think that tells the entire story lol, but that's what they rely on, idiots thinking it means they are leet. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

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Seraph IX Basarab wrote:Doesn't matter if they can fight or not. Call them **** if you like but the fact remains they'll hurt your empire logistics. And that's a service plenty of people are paying for. lol will they? They hurt the dumbasses that go to highsec on alliance characters, something we explicitly tell them not to do. They effectively teach our members, and other people pay for it. Do you honestly think alliance logistics are done on alliance characters? Do you know anything about how null groups work? If we ran logistics on alliance characters, no null group would survive any of the hundreds of wardecs they receive. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

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Fybs wrote:I am now certain we have cause some serious butt hurt to you Lucas in some way. your obsession with us is on a similar level to gobblins obsession with killing goons. what we do is never personal is just good fun (marmite is probably the most fun alliance in eve IMO  ) i think you should take a step away from C&P bud it's clearly having an effect on your well being. lol, the usual comeback. Fail there buddy. You might want to reevaluate your idea of what obsession is. Responding to a thread doesn't automatically make me obsessed, you just don't like that I point out facts and rather than try to prove me wrong, you instead leap into attacking me. Typical defensive responses.
And careful, since Gevlon is your leader, you don't want to get on the wrong side of him. He's made it clear that if he wasn't paying your wars you couldn't afford most of them. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

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Seraph IX Basarab wrote:Dumbasses or not, it's still alliance characters. And no not all alliance logistics are done on alliance characters but some is. Again it doesn't matter how they do it, fact is Marmite racks up kills even if it's "no skill jita camping ganks." Doesn't matter. It's still results. No, no alliance level logistics is done on alliance characters. If someone in alliance logistics were to do that, they'd no longer be in alliance logistics. Pretty much any null group follows this principle. It's dead easy to use an NPC freighter to ship things to empty border systems then jump it out from there and there's no excuse for not doing it.
Those people that get killed, they deserve to die for not listening to a simple alliance rule. And yes, it does matter. Again, it's called context. Marmite cheer themselves on as if them killing "random moron 20534" is somehow damaging to us as an alliance, when in fact it helps us more than it hinders us. During burn Jita we killed our own people if they were there too, since if you can't follow a simple instruction you deserve to die.
What do you think the results are showing? All they are doing is buffing their KB so they can point uninformed people at their killboard and say "look at that number, we MUST be good". Context proves they aren't.
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Fybs wrote:iv proved you wrong numerous times just one look at my own kill board shows that  What does your killboard show? I see you outnumbering missioners and industrial ships 10 to 1. I don't really see anything that would make you stand out as an elite PvPer. Oh, I'm sorry was I just supposed to look at the raw numbers and ignore everything else?
Fybs wrote:p.s you seem to forget that we was war deccing on mass long before gevlon and will continue to do so when he goes. you must actually be nuts if you believe otherwise  I never stated that I did believe that, but your leader has stated it so I'd be surprised if it was too far from the truth. We did in fact point out that you've always wardecced people, but apparently you could only afford small wardecs and for short periods of time. Again, your leader's words, not mine.
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Fybs wrote:1) you always say we only camp hubs and only hubs Actually, I also state that you camp pipe gates.
Fybs wrote:2) you say we run away when anyone fights backs
3) you say we only kill indi/mission ships Generally, as a group you do. Sure, the odd one of you might occasionally break the mould, but overall you just go for easy risk-free kills. And you do so because if you take risks and lose a ship you get reamed out for it, since the only thing that is important to you guys is a high efficiency number.
Fybs wrote:clearly my own kill board shows the above statements are BS. How? Your killboard reinforces that if anything. The majority of your kills are large groups against ships that have literally 0 chance of defending themselves against even one of you. Have you actually looked at your killboard?
Fybs wrote:P.S If I say on blog that I'm your leader would you believe that aswell? don't believe everything you read  gevlon is just one of many clients we have (he just writes a blog about it). and last but not lest you seem to forget we was war deccing CFC before gevlon  no, but if you aid on a blog you were my leader and I proceeded to follow your every command and adhere to your wild beliefs, then I'd believe it. Before you used to just wardec the CFC, now you've got Tora rolling his alt and spewing out the same anti-CFC sperg that Gevlon is spouting. To suggest that what you guys are doing now is just business as usual is laughable.
Don't get me wrong, I don't think that your line members and queuing up behind Gevlon and cheering, but you follow Tora, Tora follows Gevlon. Gevlon is your equivalent of Mittani, he's your coalition leader. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

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Tora Bushido wrote:@Lucas: We don't care what you think. Get help, you need it. Till then we will keep killing Monkeys, Goons, Bla's etc. Why ? Because its FUN ! Just as much fun as people enjoy killing Marmites or making stupid replies here. It's a game mate, not real life. You should try it one day. lol, go ahead and kill whoever you want, or at least whoever Gevlon commands you to.
And yes, it's a game, but you guys do seem to take it pretty seriously. That's pretty much why it's fun to poke you with a stick and watch you scream and point at your killboard saying "But but... numbers! We're relevant I swear!". Maybe you need to have a word with your leader though hand let him know it's just a game since he seems to have missed that memo in one of the hundreds of daily "I hate goons!" posts he does. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

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Fybs wrote:Lucas you clearly have no actual knowledge of how high sec mercing works  I think it's safe to say I understand a lot about marmite ;)
Fybs wrote:so what do think we should do? go to null and get blobbed by the CFC like everyone else? you guys are the worst for it! should we camp dead end systems where none of our targets are? because that's fun right! should we only kill ships that have points fitted to them and let all the fat Indi ships go? because that's what you would do if a neutral orca past you in null is it not? I kill anything and everything I can get my hands on  it really is that simple Your logic might make a bit more sense here if a) it wasn't reductio ad absurdum, and b) you were only ever hired for wardecs.
Lets face facts, you don't only wardec based off of contracts, you also wardec off of your own backs to boost your killboard. When you are picking a target you pick the weakest targets so you can gain the most efficiency. Null groups have always been favoured by groups for boosting efficiency as generally the only people in highsec will be haulers or not very bright, and the chance of a retaliation is very very slim. Now right up to this point, that's fairly normal, a lot of groups pad their killboard.
Where it becomes moronic is when you turn around and start acting like the numbers on your killboard prove that you are a competent group and that you are amazing at PvP. They don't, they are simply easy kills designed specifically to pad your killboard, so at a glance you appear to be competent. If you were actually able to PvP effectively, PoH wouldn't have dunked you so heavily.
Fybs wrote:P.S you constant ranting here shows you have some real and deep butt hurt with us. would you like me to fly down to your system and we can have a nice little 1 v 1? oh I forget your not a pvper so would just hide in station or get a blob to fight me yourself  Ah yes, the usual "you are posting therefore you must be crying!" fallacy. We could from that look at how defensive you have become over this and surmise that it stems from a deeply embedded sense of inadequacy, couldn't we? The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

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Fybs wrote:you say we only carefully pick weak targets? it was only yesterday I saw tora war dec a corp simply because he felt like it  that had some serious and careful thought into that one!! Suuure he did. And what corp was that?
Fybs wrote:POH applied some very good guerrilla tactics against us. the same sort of tactics we do to you guys. L O L So now what you guys do is "guerrilla tactics"? Attacking things that don't matter to us and have absolutely no impact on our day to day operations is guerrilla tactics now?
Fybs wrote:They never fought when outnumbered and only picked weak unknowing hub campers or solo marmites (fair play to them I would have done the same). they never once bothered me personally but maybe that's because I don't camp hubs. I have respect for them purely because they know when to fight and when not too like all good players should  Haven't you literally just got through explaining why that is tactics? If you ganking easy targets makes you elite PvPers, then PoH dunking you so heavily clearly puts the leagues ahead of you, making you clearly not elite. The difference between them and you being that they attacked you in the area of space that you actually live, you know, high sec. You however attack null groups in high sec, far far far away from the danger of a response fleet.
Fybs wrote:p.s I take it that's a no to the 1 v 1? You mean attack you with an industrial character, hope that I can by some miracle un-manufacture your ship? No thanks. I'll just leave you to blob industrial ships and cheer about how elite you are for shooting a ship that has no guns. I, unlike you, have nothing to prove. I'm not an elite PvPer, and that's OK. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

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Fybs wrote:well actually we apply guerrilla tactics to all groups larger then us. it's a good sound tactic to use don't you agree? Oh, I agree that guerrilla tactics are a good idea, I just don't agree that what you are doing being guerrilla tactics. I mean for starters guerrilla tactics by definition are supposed to be irregular, yet wardeccing null groups to pad killboards is as regular as it gets. It's also generally a way for a smaller group to damage a larger group, something which you do not do, since you purposely avoid anywhere you could damage us as that would risk us actually regarding you as a threat and responding.
Fybs wrote:also I couldn't care less if we effect you or not  as long as I get to shoot players I don't give a damn! As it should be, so why the desperate need to portray yourselves as elite PvPers if all you care about is getting to shoot stuff for fun?
Fybs wrote:I consider all your posts null and void because you know nothing about pvp and are just a care bear posting dribble. I know enough about PvP to know that what you do barely qualifies. What you do is about as much PvP as market PvP is PvP.
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Fybs wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Fybs wrote:I consider all your posts null and void because you know nothing about pvp and are just a care bear posting dribble. I know enough about PvP to know that what you do barely qualifies. What you do is about as much PvP as market PvP is PvP. No Lucas you dont you really dont  Go build a ship or with the market! Your welcome back when you become a merc or learn to pew this is C&P not your SMA forums. hey man, I ganked during Burn Jita. By your standards, that is PvP. Victory is mine.
In addition to that we blob people like all the time.
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Fybs wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Fybs wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Fybs wrote:I consider all your posts null and void because you know nothing about pvp and are just a care bear posting dribble. I know enough about PvP to know that what you do barely qualifies. What you do is about as much PvP as market PvP is PvP. No Lucas you dont you really dont  Go build a ship or with the market! Your welcome back when you become a merc or learn to pew this is C&P not your SMA forums. hey man, I ganked during Burn Jita. By your standards, that is PvP. Victory is mine. In addition to that we blob people like all the time. hahaha i know right you have had more kills on jita then me!!! by your standards your just a hub camping scrub  True story bro. I have no problem accepting facts, and no desperate need to enlarge my epeen. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

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NightmareX wrote:1. Why do you think i'm in Marmite now even though i was against them earlier and even made fun of them?
2. Why do you think we have the whole insane 15 trillion isk in kills in this small alliance of just ~230 members?
3. Why should we care about what others say about us when we have fun and gets tons of kills witch is the thing that matters?
4. We actually do get many good fights that i'm frapsing. A new upcoming video from me is under developments now. 1. Who knows, ***** and giggles probably.
2. Killboard padding. It's been shown that padding killboard with industry kills is simple to do. Even Gevlon, pretty much the worst EVE player I know managed to get up to 100b a month with ganking, and that's without even having wardecs. You guys have 15T over 44 months which is 340b/month. Over 230 players that's 1.4b/month/player on average. Hardly a difficult target to hit.
3. You shouldn't, but some of you do. Unfortunately for you, you hae chosen to follow Tora, who is a bit of a pleb. He's decided to get you guys fully behinds Gevlons propaganda and make you the fact of the anti-goons, and in doing so likes the throw around killboard stats as if it proves competency, which it doesn't as shown above. The result of that is responses from players calling you guys out on it.
4. I'm sure some of you do, but overall as a group the majority of you don't. Good fights usually involve losses, since they are the ones where you have the most excitement, when there's a chance you might lose. That doesn't fit well with Tora's desire to throw around 90+% efficiency ratings so the majority of your group has to killboard pad in safety to ensure that it gets upheld. Look through the marmite killboard and you'll see this evidenced. Like I mentioned in an earlier post, the war against SMA that Tora likes to throw about, 80% of the kill value came from ships with no guns. I guarantee if you dig down into the rest only a tiny fraction at best would have been good fights.
NightmareX wrote:So my guesses is that you have been killed or your alt have been killed by us where you have lost valuable items to us because we war dec'ed you as angry you are on us now. Nope, I live in null and only ever use alts in highsec and those alts are in NPC corps. Up until you got bought out by Gevlon I had barely an idea of who you even were, just another one of those wardec groups which are a dime a dozen. It's a known fact that if you are in a null group, multiple groups of highseccers will wardec you nearly constantly for easy kills, and if you've been in null a while you will have learned to work around it. Pretty much the only reason I poke you guys with stick on here is that Tora behaves like a child and it's pretty amusing to prod people like that.
NightmareX wrote:Lastly, quite alot of the ex-Rebirth guys (like me) are in Marmite now where our brutal and experienced PVP skills from the Rebirth days of doing empire wars are all in action in this alliance now. So i can't see where Marmite are doing anything wrong or where it fails right now. I'm really not sure why people like you chose Marmite to jump into, but I'm sure you''ll do well at holding them up. Even if you look at well before the who anti-goon thing, they were considered to be the joke of merc corps. Not many people really consider them to be mercenaries, just "those guys you see in Jita" more often than not. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

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Tora Bushido wrote:FAIL 1 : Space Monkeys : 27,55T / 2129 member / 64 months = 0,02B/player (Very close to 1,47B, lol) FAIL 2 : We aren't anti CFC. We kill anyone we get paid for by our clients. Are you saying mercs shouldn't do that ? I am pro CODE and I mentioned before that I think Mittens seems like a smart guy, etc. FAIL 3 : You keep saying "Yes, but freight club isnt really Marmites", ++es, but RB isnt really Marmites", "Yes, but the WH guys arent marmites", "yes, but....etc etc". I think you already excluded 95% of Marmites by now. All these guys together is what makes Marmites fun. FAIL 4 : If Gevlon is our boss, is every client who does the same our boss ? Or just Gevlon, cuz its suites your fantasy ? FAIL 5 : Tora is much smarter then you'll ever be. Deal with it. Marmites will do the job asked by our clients. With or without other merc wars.  Keep up the butt hurt and Tears. Its exactly what we want from you.  1. How thick are you? Scale of 1 to 10. We aren't trying to pad our killbaord then run around screaming "LOOK AT HOW RELEVANT WE ARE!" that's what you are trying to do. I'm just pointing out that when you scream about how amazing your killbaord is, it's crap in comparison with other people who are also padding their killboards. You are not elite PVPers just for ganking highsec players. 2. You really seem to be anti-CFC since you go on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on about how much you hate the goonies. You know, when you take a break from the go awful smacktalk you try. 3. lol, no I stated that some marmites, as in a small minority of them, may know how to PVP, but the vast majority as well as the overall direction of marmites is killboard padding. zkillbaord proves this, no matter how much you try to pretend it's not true. Go read it. 4. Nope, since other clients you just do jobs for. With Gevlon, you are following his every command as well as pushing his propaganda. Whatever he commands you to do you follow, that's leadership. 5. lol, you wish. Maybe when you finish school you can give title that a shot.
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Purity by Fire wrote:Actually Lucas does know one thing better than me He can hit F1 faster Quoting other peoples kill boards is pretty lame considering the state of yours Lucus. If you have other alts with better killboards please feel free to mail me there details. Also the use of alt reppers is pretty much like another corps reppers in null and by the looks of it you guys use that alot more than we do. I wish I did have an alt repper  lol, I'm not just quoting their killbaord. They want to flaunt their killboard and brag about how amazing they are because dumbasses look at the end numbers and say "yes they must be elite!". I'm just pointing out that it's not the case. I don't need to be an elite pvper to point out facts about their killboard being padded to hell with easy kills to make them look better than they are to the uneducated masses.. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |
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Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.06.17 13:48:00 -
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NightmareX wrote:1. No, i'm here because i like to do empire wars and i like to blow stuffs up and makes peoples cry. To have fun and to kill stuffs is what matters to me. Empire gives me easy and fast access to everything i need and it allows me to do PVP in a lag free environment where carrier blobbing and such isn't allowed (don't take me wrong, but i do like low sec though).
2. Like Tora said over: Space Monkeys : 27,55T / 2129 member / 64 months = 0,02B/player (Very close to 1,47B, lol). You must be doing something horribly wrong if you call 1.47B/player easy to get in that case. If that had been so easy, then why do your alliance only have 0.02B/player then?
3. No, i didn't follow Tora, because i did follow Kai86 that was my CEO in Rebirth earlier. He and other ex-Rebirth members decided to join Marmite, so i decided to follow that my self sometime later. And because i know Kai86 and know what he is capable of doing, it's not hard to decide on what corp i want to be in. When it comes to empire PVP, nothing beats Kai86. PERIOD.That's why i follow him.
4. The first fight in my video does have losses on our side. The fight landed at around 50-55% in damage done in isk for us in that fight. So yes, we do get good fights. My current video is only about 20% finished though, so i still have a long way to go before it's finished.
And now to the 2 last things. If you haven't been killed by us, then why are you so mad at us?
Did we hurt a friend of you in EVE or?
I didn't decide to jump into Marmite because i found it cool to do. I found it as a very good idea to do as many or most of the ex-Rebirth members had joined them. I'm ex-Rebirth and i know what we in Rebirth are capable of doing. So that's the reason i joined Marmite. Marmite simply turned out to be a much harder enemy to defeat after ex-Rebirth joined them. 1. So yes, for ***** and giggles.
2. Like stated back to Tora, we aren't the ones flaunting our killboards like they mean a damn thing. At no point have I ever said our killboards are amazing, yet you guys bang on about your all the time. And yet it's ****. My KB doesn't need to be great for me to see that yours is padded with easy kills. Seems you both missed the point, which is that the isk numbers alone on killboards mean nothing. It's the context that makes it a good killboard.
3. You didn't, but you do now. You do what Tora wants and expects, while he answers to Gevlon. Or are you suggesting Kai is now the leader of marmite? And Kai may be that great, who knows? If we look at things the way you guys do though, and only look at the end kill numbers not the contexts, then loyalanon is ~10x better at PvP than Kai, FACT. In fact, even Gevlon is 4x better at empire PvP than Kai is. That's how it works, right?
4. As I said, I'm sure there are some of you that are looking for good fights, but you aren't the majority in your alliance. The majority is there to pad the killboard.
And as for the mad part, in what way am I mad? I think you are confusing madness with ridicule. Tora decided to sell out to Gevlon and chose to attack the CFC. that made me curious as to who you guys were. What I discovered was a group of risk averse merc wannabees well deserving of a fair amount of laughter, and so I hang around for the entertainment. The mere mention that you guys aren't "elite" seems to send most of you into a frenzy which is pretty spectacular to watch.
By all means though, if it makes you feel better, continue to assume that it must be because I or a friend was ganked by all your super eliteness and that this is all just tears, it affects me to the sum of zero. :D The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.06.17 14:17:00 -
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NightmareX wrote:1. You clearly don't understand the meaning and what Mercenaries are?
Maybe the day you know what the meaning behind it is will be the day you will understand why our killboard is one of our most important tools for our business.
2. Who doesn't hate the Goonies?
Goons are the cancer of EVE like they have been for many years now.
3. The killboards are a huge part of our business. Without a killboard that shows how we roll, it means no Merc works for us. Just because you are jealous on us because we get so much kills, even from extremely bad noobs like you say we have in our alliance it doesn't mean we are doing bad or anything wrong. It just shows how we are doing our business.
Alot of us are earning tons of isks in empire by doing wars and we have tons of fun doing it. Can anything be better than that?
4. It's pretty clear that you don't know Tora at all.
5. I'll just repeat it. Tora is much smarter than you are, so deal with it. He's smart enough to deal 15 trillion isk in damage in an alliance with a bunch of noobs in it as you say our alliance have. If that's not smart, then i don't know. 1. I understand precisely what mercenaries are and I understand why you want your killboard to be padded. But you still can't claim with a straight face that it makes you elite.
2. Actually, most people don't give a **** that goons even exist, it's only vocal minorities that care one way or the other, and for the most part people don't even know why they hate the goons. When you ask them they say "cos they scam and stuff" or "because of donut!". I'd put forward that people wardeccing every highsec corp, many of which are filled with noobs are more of a cancer. Id also put forward that group like CODE are worse too. Some people in the ass end of null that one weekend a year come and spice up the trade hub, hardly the biggest issue in the game.
3. So pad your killboard, just don't claim it makes you elite PVPers for doing it. It makes you good at picking weak targets and nothing more. So if people want serious merc work done, they can go to one of the other groups and if they want someone to shoot industrial ships they can hire you, or you know, anyone with a handful of destroyers.
4. lol, I know him well enough. ;)
5. LOL. AMAZING. So you need to be smart to get a bunch of people to shoot unarmed ships for several years? Truly amazing. Thank you for the entertainment. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.06.17 14:26:00 -
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NightmareX wrote:1. Really?
So you don't carebear as you loves to do now for just for ***** and giggles?
2. Again, you don't get the concept of what Mercenaries are. The day you understand what that is will be the day you will realize that our killboard is our most important tool for our business. You should really start learning about what mercenaries are before you scream out about killboard stats and such.
3. You didn't read what i wrote. I said i did follow Kai86 that made me join the corp and alliance i'm in now. Tora has nothing to do with me joining this corp. Tora is just a leader who leads the alliance in the right direction and takes cares of all of the diplomatic stuffs. He do PVP sometimes to, so he's getting kills to when he have the time.
But again, Kai86 was the reason i joined this corp and alliance, because with him here i know i will get tons of action.
4. More and more in Marmite are now looking for good fights. Just because someone are sitting all day long in a trade hub and killing everything that undocks (witch actually is part of what a war is) it doesn't mean you have to take everyone under the same boat.
And to the last thing. Yes you are butthurt over us because we actually manages to get insanly high amount of kills isk wise every months with an alliance that have a buttload of noobs in it. If that's not great, then i don't know. 1. I'm sure there must be a language barrier here, but for ***** and giggles means for fun, which is why you said you joined.
2. Yes, I understand, yet that doesn't make your killboard elite, it just makes it padded so the dumbasses who don't know better think it's good.
3. Yes, an I never said Tora made you join, I said Tora is your leader and Gevlon leads him. Thanks for confirming the former.
You kinda skipped over he part about how Kai86 is a worse PvPer than Gevlon. That is by your own standards of measurement.
4. I've yet to see more than a handful or marmite in any position of risk. There no way Tora would allow you guys to risk dropping the efficiency rating too much. Like you say your killbaord numbers are precious so they must remain padded.
And yes, I'm super jealous of all your kills. Sometimes I sit about dreaming of what it would be like to repetitively kill industrial ships over and over again until a completely meaningless number ticked up to enough for me to fap to. I'm not sure if you are being deliberately dumb here or if you legitimately don't understand that killboards mean precisely **** all to some of us. It is funny watching you get so defensive over it though. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

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Posted - 2014.06.17 14:48:00 -
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NightmareX wrote:1. We are elite in doing what we do as mercenaries. And you are elite at doing carebear stuffs. Do you have any problems that we are professinals at what we do?
2. Goons are still Goons, aka cancer of EVE.
3. When you say pad our killboard, it clearly says that you don't know the way Mercenaries works. We work to blow ***** up every day and we don't care what we kills as we shoot first and ask later. We are hired in by alot of players, so we have to do our job and kill those we are hired to do. So what are wrong with getting tons of kills that way?
Isn't that supposed to be like that when Mercenaries have to kills stuffs like crazy to do it's job?
You can't deny that we aren't doing our job good and can't deny it that we are extremely professinals at what we as Mercenaries are doing and are here for.
4. So how much do you know about him?
Tell us about him and let us hear you story.
5. Nice counterargument there bud. I said that Tora must be smart that can make newbs in his alliance to kill so much isk even when other alliances with many more experienced pilots and such can't even get near our stats for each member. Tora must have done something right. 1. So you are elite killboard padders, not elite at PvP. gotcha.
2. OK, so why?
3. Erm, I'm beginning to wonder if you know how you work. As well as taking on contracts, you wardec groups that you know you can achieve easy risk free kills from and use them to bulk out your killboard. It's stuff that's been done since like the beginning of time and everyone knows about it. It still doesn't make you any better at being mercenaries, which most people agree marmite are to jokes of the merc world. You don't really hire marmite if you want stuff done.
4. Now that would be telling. Lets just say I've had first hand experience and he comes across as not too bright.
5. Yes, and that;s because other alliances aren't trying to pad their killboards. If an elite group of PVP pilots chose to pad their killboards they would wipe the floor with you. The problem is you are using killboard padding tactics that are known to generate very easy high values of kills (like Gevlon showed) then you are comparing yourself to people who are actually fighting properly. Of course your kill value will be higher. That's like comparing how many burgers a 5* restaurant chef cooks with a McDonalds employee. Of course the McdDonalds employee will cook more, but that doesn't make him a better chef. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.06.17 15:47:00 -
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NightmareX wrote:1. No, again, you don't graps the concept of what mercenaries are made to do. The mercenaries job is to get tons of killmails. But that just doesn't mean we are just padding our killboard, because killing tons of thing is our job in EVE. Do you see the difference here?
2. Because they are the cancer of EVE. Yeah i can just say they are that in the same way as you can say that we are bad without any explaination on why.
3. No, we war dec those we get hired to war dec. Again, you shows extremely well that you don't understand what mercenaries are.
4. Tora is still smart that can make such noobs in our alliance to inflict so much damage in isk. 1. No... a mercenaries job is to fulfill the requirements of the client. Padding the killboard is generally done off contract or on contracts where the goal is to generate isk value in kills. If I hired you to disrupt a corps mining operations, I'd be pretty pissed if you just padded your killboards with Jita ganks.
2. I explained why, I even pointed you to the information to view yourself. You simply screamed about how you are mercenaries therefore ganking easy targets makes you the mega elite. Still doesn't explain why a smaller mercenary alliance dunked you in short order if you are so much more elite, but ah well.
3. And you waardec other players. Not all of your wardecs are paid contracts. There's plenty you add just because they give you more easy targets.
4. You say "so much damage" but you're talking about years of totals. Broken down to an individual level it's nothing. Gevlon did 70x your groups damage player to player, and he's widely known as a complete nub. It doesn't take smarts to grind easy kills.
Edit: and still you avoid the whole Kai comment. Touched a nerve there did I? Did you suddenly realise that without breaking your own measure of success and taking context of kilsl into account you can't show he's better than Gevlon at empire PvP? The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.06.17 18:13:00 -
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NightmareX wrote:1. You said: No... a mercenaries job is to fulfill the requirements of the client.
Yes, and that is to kill targets and stuffs. That's our job. Just because we generates tons of killmails just because we was sent out to do our job doesn't mean we are padding our killboard. It just means we are effective at killing our war targets. That's what i'm telling you that we are professional at being mercenaries. We don't say we are elite just because we get some killmails on the killboard. We say it because we know we are professionals / elite at doing our job pretty damn good as the damage in isk done tells us. Specially when we have the little ~230 members.
This is the thing you fail to see the differences in.
2. Mercenaries doesn't care about how or who we kill. We kill the target we are hired to kill in the most brutal and effective way possible. Ofc we also makes sure we don't lose ships as that's also a part of how clients / customers looks at us. If we gets tons of losses in every fights we have, they might not like that and might hire in someone else to do the job.
We are just doing our job extremely effectively and professional. And you can't deny that. Or could you at least give some arguments on why you would deny it if you do?
3. No, not all war decs are paid by customers or clients. We war dec everyone we want like every other mercenaries would do. We love being mercenaries because it's profitable and extremely fun. And having fun is the most important thing in EVE, right?
Just because you don't like the way we operates, it doesn't mean we are bad at what we do and at being mercenaries.
4. LOL, doesn't matter. Inflicting 15 trillion isk in like 3 years in an alliance who have been mostly out of noobs is taken as quite an achievement no matter how you like that fact or not.
And lastly. Gevlon is Gevlon and he doesn't change the fact that Marmite as an alliance with noobs in it most of the time have inflicted 15 trillion isk within 3 years. 1. So all of your clients want just killmails, nothing else, and every one of your wardecs is a contract. Yeah, I call bullshit.
2. Absolutely, but you also pick easy targets to pad your killboard to make you look better than you are. Required, yes, elite, no. You are not elite PVPers just because you gank. You can beat around the bush as much as you want but you know that is a fact.
3. Ah so back to number 1 then. You wardec easy targets to pad your kb. You wouldnt randomly wardec a target too tough, like a certain merc corp 1/5th your size. and no, it doesn't mean that, but you are pretty bad. Look around mate, it's no secret that marmite are the joke of the merc world.
4. But it's not an achievement. Any ****** can get easy kills in highsec. What's amazing is that while you hunt easy prey, you've only achieve 15T in 3 years. 1.4b/month/member. CODE members can do that inside a day, and they automatically get blown up when they score a kill.
And yes, Gevlon is Gevlon, and he's a pretty bad player. But his ability to score kills outstrips Kai 4 times over. So earlier when you stated that nobody is as good as Kai at empire PVP, it was bullshit. A terribad player is clearly better than him if you are only looking at kill values like you do. You can;t have it both ways mate. Either kill values are all that matters or they aren't.
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Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.06.17 21:03:00 -
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lol, this is just going to go on forever. high sec ganking is easy and has been proven so many times. You're now getting to the point of ridiculous where you are demanding an industrial player go out ganking or facts that you could obtain from literally anyone with half a brain or just by looking at the killboards for gankers you'll simply ignore.
Marmite are a joke, and everyone knows that. Just because you broke away from a PVP group to join them doesn't suddenly mean all their members are great at PvP and one day you'll have to accept that. Until then I'm gonna be the bigger man and walk away leaving you to stew in your impotent rage.
Mua ha ha ha ha.
EDIT: Oh, and INB4 you fruitlessly claim this as some kind of hollow victory. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.06.23 06:00:00 -
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I guarantee you that every single on of those is someone moving their own crap like a moron. Do you know what alliance logistics is, yeah? It's the logistics that the alliance needs moving for the alliance, not bunches of random crap being moved by some dweeb who finally bought a JF. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.06.23 10:04:00 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:It's ok Lucas. We really don't mind what kind of moron it is, as long as they die and supply us with good loot  Rumors say that some big 00 alliance donated a JF to Marmites last night  Indeed they do, Highsec wardeccers can easily scrape billions in kills and loot from null targets, that's why they've done it for pretty much ever. That is not in dispute. What I dispute is the idea that the loss of someone's personal JF full of their own stuff is somehow detrimental to the alliances. I think groups like Gevlon's Marmites are needed to help prune out the idiots in null alliances before they screw up and get a fleet dunked. But lets face it, if they are going for impact they are wishing a bit. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.06.25 14:14:00 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:Then you think wrong my good sir. Noir is just a group of irrelevant hasbeens. As opposed to Marmite, a group of neverbeens? I think if we took a balanced poll, more players would rather have Noir fighting their corner than Marmite. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.06.26 06:55:00 -
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Besides, it's a fact that Kai86 is worse at PvP than Gevlon, by marmites own measurements. Just because NightmareX seems to be massively in love with him and wants to choke on his rod, doesn't mean he's suddenly going to turn the tide of an entire nub alliance. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.06.26 14:56:00 -
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NightmareX wrote:The butthurt is strong in that reply. Yes, every response is butthurt. If that's what you need to think to get on with your life, then feel free. Considering you keep saying "but we're ex-rebirth!" and most people respond with "... who?" it's clear that you really need to feel relevant, especially since you are pretty much just hub/pipe campers now. Nice to see that it takes only a couple of lines about your boyfriend to get you to tl;dr ragepost a defense though :D The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.06.26 15:32:00 -
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NightmareX wrote:Anyone who lives or have been living in empire the last 3-4 years knows who Rebirth is. There is a reason why Rebirth / THE GOD SQUAD 2-3 years ago was the most feared corp / alliance in empire then. lol, is that what you told yourself? Other than you, I don't think I've seen anyone else saying anything remotely close to that. As far as I can see you were just "yet another empire wardeccer". Just a hint: being the most feared usually means people need to have heard of you.
NightmareX wrote:And to your hub/pipe campers argument. I will look forward to make you look stupid with that comment when i release my video. Ooh scary! A video! Will this be followed by a bunch of people telling you it's boring, then your patented tl;dr wall responses to every post where you tell everyone they are wrong for not being entertained? The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.06.26 15:50:00 -
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NightmareX wrote:Again, you don't know who or what Rebirth is. Kinda hard to explain this stuffs to a guy who are completely clueless when it comes to empire wars the last 2-3 years. Uh no, It's kind of hard to explain because only you chant your nonsense. Nobody else cares that Rebirth even existed for a brief moment. You might get a big rush when you say "I'm ex-rebirth", but nobody else cares about an irrelevant group that was good at disbanding :p You need a reality check, stat. If you were the "most feared", then everyone would know who you are. It would be an undeniable truth. But since the only person stating that is you, it looks more like a kid puffing out his chest and screaming "I'm big and tough, honest".
NightmareX wrote:Yup, it will prove your waah waah arguments to be invalid witch is the point i'm trying to explain to you. Just because someone is camping hubs and that, you don't bring in the rest of the alliance under the same boat. Specially not today when it's about Marmite. No, it won't. It'll be half hour to an hour of incredibly dull fights, sped up and with some random music you like, and yet still dull. I'm positive there will even be the "moments of glory" where you weren't even in high sec at all, but it won't prove anything. Anyone with eyes can see where the majority of your kills come from, so a video of you in a system with red numbers won't actually change that.
By the way, I like how there's a common trend in your posts where everything anyone else says is butthurt or "waah waah", when all I have to do is call you irrelevant and you explode into defensive rageposting. You certainly are a source of entertainment when I'm bored at least :D The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.06.26 16:07:00 -
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NightmareX wrote:LOL, that came from the right person. I know what i'm talking about because i'm an ex-Rebirth member. Got it? That's what I thought. I accept your admission of failure.
NightmareX wrote:No, It'll be half hour of good PVP fights we have had. I even deleted 2 of the earlier fights we had because they don't lives up to the standard today. I know the video will be good this time as i'm gonna go through a vertifying process where several peoples have to go through my video before it gets released.
Just believe whatever you want, but i will prove your arguments wrong and i will make sure that i'm gonna make fun of you because of your arguments here. Ha, I very much doubt it. I've seen your previous posts, your utter inability to accept criticism and your lack of understanding of how something can be enjoyed as a participant, but not as a viewer. I can almost guarantee that the responses will be that your video is boring, to which your responses will be "omg such butthurt", "waah waah" and "this is all because everyone has something against me". After several pages of back and forth trolling and bad smacktalk, the thread will be closed. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.06.26 16:51:00 -
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NightmareX wrote:LOL, doesn't help. I'm ex-Rebirth member and i know Rebirth in and out compared to you that doesn't even know the corp at all. lol, you aren't very bright are you. That was my whole point. If most people have never even heard of you, how can you possibly claimed to have been the most feared? Sure YOU know your corp existed and YOU think you were hardcore, but that's not proof of anything. You were just another wardec corp, nothing more.
NightmareX wrote:Ahh, so bringing in what happened several years ago is bound to happen again? Yes. Ignorant people rarely learn from their mistakes, and it's clear from the way you respond that you attitude is no different.
NightmareX wrote:And if you read my topic about my Rebirth 4 video, you will see that i'm taking the genuine criticisms to me and have noted it down. What i do react on is those guys who just trolls just because they can and just trolls and say things without even giving reasons for it. Uh no, you were taking the light criticism and noting it down, discarding everything else as tears. You can selectively pick out the criticism if you want, but then nothing will change, you won;t learn anything and you'll remain ignorant. It was clear that there were several pieces of genuine criticism that many people agreed with, which you read then simply ignored because those people were "butthurt".
NightmareX wrote:So no, my new video will not have boring moments. And this time i'm not in a hurry either to make a video, so if it will take 1 year to make it, i will use 1 year to make sure it will be good. I sincerely doubt that, but only time will tell.
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Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.06.26 18:08:00 -
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NightmareX wrote:Just because you haven't hear about us, because your a 0.0 space carebear with no clues about empire, then it doesn't mean everyone else haven't heard about us. Again, i'm saying that everyone who have been doing empire wars and PVP and those who have been war dec'ed by us in empire knows who Rebirth is. That is a fact. Because I was born in 0.0, and have absolutely no involvement in empire, right?
And yes, I'm sure people you dec have heard of you. That doesn't make you most feared lol. Show me where it's evidenced that most people feared you guys.
NightmareX wrote:My attitude towards you is because you are talking right out of your ass, basicly. If you at least could have provided some sources to base your statements out of, then it would be better, but just basing your old arguments here from something that have happened before several years ago is just plain stupid and makes you looks bad, because everyone or most peoples improves over time. LOL? I'm talking out of my ass because I'm asking you to validate your claim that rebirth is the pinnacle of empire PvP? I've provided zkb, which shows you guys doing the Marmite hub and pipe camping, while you've shown nothing to show you guys eing elite at PvP. I'd provide things showing how little people cared about rebirth too, but it seems that people cared so little you were barely mentioned. Oh wait, they didn't post about you through fear, right? The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.06.26 18:21:00 -
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NightmareX wrote:It's pretty clear that you didn't read my topic at all. Longer out in the topic i even quoted one player that gave me lots of genuine criticisms. I quoted him and said that i wanted peoples to give criticisms like he did gave me instead of giving me stupid replies of 'your movie sucks' and 'your videos are boring to watch'. Yes, I saw where you selectively picked out the criticism you wanted to agree with.
NightmareX wrote:Go read the topic again and go over it and you will find it where i ask for valdig criticisms several times. I got that sometimes, but most peoples was just trolling and bashing it because they could. Most of the criticisms I read were valid, and on many occasions they explained why it was boring. A criticism isn't invalid just because you don't like it. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.06.26 22:25:00 -
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NightmareX wrote:Saeger1737 wrote:Sounds like nightmare has a hard on for Kai, when's the wedding? I don't think you know the difference from telling some facts and having a hard on  . lol, OK, so show us these facts. Show us where we can see that rebirth was globally feared for the 5 minutes they weren't disbanded and that Kai makes us all shudder in our boots at the mere mention of his name. The fact is, Kai is a nobody, you are a nobody and rebirth where a failed group of nobodies. Just because you want to oil Kai up and chant his name doesn't mean the rest of the game needs to agree.
Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I'm a somebody, but then I'm not the one going on and on and on about how I'm ex rebirth like it means a damn thing. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.06.27 06:57:00 -
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NightmareX wrote:No, you have to provide the facts on your claims. It's you that are saying we are nobody and no one knows us. Try to go to any major trade hubs in EVE and ask about Rebirth in local and you will see what i'm talking about. Most peoples will most likely say they hate us over everything. Well, guess why they hate us?
Because we did kill them or inflicted huge amount of damage to them in some ways. LOL. Typical of people like you. You can provide absolutely zero evidence, and it's my job to go and and find people that back your claim. Let's face it mate, if you were "most feared" that would be an undeniable fact. You would have pages and pages of evidence without even having to look. Instead all you have is your word, because rebirth were nothing.
NightmareX wrote:Uhm, it's pretty clear you have no idea who Kai86 is. He's pretty known to quite alot of players. I have known him for a long time and i know his whole story, so claiming he's a nobody is a bit loltastic. Hahahahahahaha. Kai is well known to you, because you are so madly in love with him. I doubt most people know who he is or care what you think he can do. He is a nobody.
NightmareX wrote:The thing that i'm ex-Rebirth means alot on. It means i know what i'm talking about when it comes to how Rebirth is and how they have been. You can't deny this. LOL. Yes, you know what you ****** little corp of nobodies did. That doesn't mean that when you say "hey man, I'm ex-rebirth" that we're all going to drop the the floor to in respect. It means nothing to anyone else because nobody cares about a disbanded group of wannabe pvpers who thought they were the best. You can keep saying "yeah, but I know" as much as you want, that won't suddenly make you have a reputation. You have to earn a reputation, not just state that you have one and hope people just agree. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.06.27 12:47:00 -
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NightmareX wrote:I have told you where you will find your evidences on what i'm saying about Rebirth. The evidences can't get any better when others are telling you the truth i'm telling you. But i'll guess you are to afraid to do that because you will realize that you make yourself to look like noob with no clues. Yes, you told me to go into trade hubs where you guys hang out and ask about rebirth. I'm sure what I'll get there is a definitive unbiased response, lol.
NightmareX wrote:He's a nobody to you. To quite alot of others who lives in empire he's far from being a nobody. Go ahead, go to empire and ask about Kai86. You will be suprised on the response you will get back. The evidences is all there. No, he's a nobody full stop. Much like with Rebirth, if he wasn't a nobody I wouldn't have to go and ask about him, people would simply be talking about him. As it stand there's just you telling us how much you love him.
NightmareX wrote:Oh noes, a lil carebear from 0.0 space doesn't knows about Rebirth. Yeah, because that makes Rebirth to nobody to everyone, riiiiiiight? lol, no the fact that nobody ever talks about Rebirth, and that you are here trying to tell us how much they matter, that's what makes them nobody. Fame isn't something you need to tell people about. If you have to tell people who you are, you are a nobody.
NightmareX wrote:You don't care about us, that's the whole thing of this. That doesn't mean everyone else doesn't know who Rebirth or Kai86 is, because tons of peoples knows those 2 names much more than you believe. No the whole thing of this is you keep telling us that you are ex rebirth and that Kai86 is some elite god of EVE like it means something. No matter how many times you say it, you can't force it to be true through words alone. It's a pathetic attempt to inflate your ego by claiming you are more widely respected that you are, and frankly it makes you look like an idiot.
But go ahead and tell me again why you think rebirth is amazing and why it's just me that thinks you are nobodies, even though there's nearly no mention of you anywhere.
There's a Margaret Thatcher quote for your situation too: GÇ£Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't.GÇ¥ The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.06.28 01:57:00 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:[ Michele Bachmann wrote:This Diversion Post Approved by Rebirth/Marmite Alliance Co-Chairman Kai86 Kai cant be alliance ceo. It seems Gevlon already is alliance ceo. You might want to fight it out with Lucas first and let me know who won.  There's no fight. By your measures Gevlon is better at PvP than all marmite members, and you follow his every lead without question. It's pretty clear who the leader is (you know, the guy who gives the orders is leader...). Nightmare just wishes Kai was the leader so his ass licking would mean something.
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Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.06.28 21:01:00 -
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NightmareX wrote:Zeus Maximo wrote:Nightmare has no response to the last 2 pages of people dismantling his claims. -1 marmite Because it's no point in doing that now. Even one guy from BAW confirmed what i was saying about Rebirth and Kai86 being known for most peoples in empire. So yes, he confirmed that Lucas was wrong. I don't have to say more than that. lol, he said that in the merc world, you were known for showing up to fights, nothing more. You claim that Rebirth were the most feared, which is utter bull with absolutely no backing. I know you aren't bright enough to understand, but seriously, if you were the most feared, it would be impossible to deny. He also claimed that Kai was known for being a whiney douche lol. Not exactly the same thing. It's pretty spectacular that you can read something and get a completely different meaning from it that what it actually says. You are so utterly delusional it's unreal.
If you want to prove me wrong, go ahead and show me the hundreds of forum threads and new articles telling us about how much damage Rebirth were doing. Oh wait, you mean there aren't hundreds of threads, and not a single mention of Rebirth anywhere? That seems quite strange for the most feared empire PvP group of all time...
The truth is you are nobodies, but you really wish you weren't so you make stuff up and chestbeat. Between that and the amount of time you spend oiling up Kai you must have very little spare time. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.06.30 06:38:00 -
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Dally Lama wrote:So much butthurt in this thread. No offence ladies, but I think you are all just jealous of Marmite. This is the usual Marmite sperg. "You are posting here therefore you must be butthurt". Sometime people simply post to take the **** out of people who like to smacktalk while hiding behind neutral logi in Jita.
Dally Lama wrote:Perhaps the 1 trillion ISK damage done to CFC entities in a matter of months isn't relevant to you folk, but to those of us in New Eden reality it kind of is! We are well aware that it's relevant to you. To us though it still means nothing. It's been happening for years, will happen for many more. It might be Marmite there doing it or it might be some other group of killboard padders, but it will always happen. And yet we still exist. Surely that simple fact is proof that it's not relevant to us.
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Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.06.30 06:42:00 -
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Seraph IX Basarab wrote:Except "being good" is an invented concept as unique as each individual in this game. For some "being good" is getting the most kills. For others it is getting that one expensive capital kill. For others still it is putting green on the killboard, some random, some in specific areas. So ranting about how "marmite is bad" is pointless. Marmite are bad at their own stated goals. I guess you could say they are good at being bad.
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:Plenty of high value targets die in Jita and I know very well the issues constant wardec causes for people out in 0.0. If a war in highsec gave you problems in 0.0, then you did 0.0 wrong, it's that simple.
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Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.06.30 12:41:00 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:Personally I don't care much about if we are good, bad, ugly, perfect, nub cakes or whatever....... I care about one important factor : Are we having fun playing Eve ? And yes we are having much fun!!  So if the alliance ceo doesn't care about the label you want to give it, why would anyone outside the alliance care ? Sorry if this will hurt your feelings, but I am not really interested in your negative opinion ?  You can say that, but it's not all its about though is it? If people joined you and you guys all had loads of fun together, but they damaged your killboard efficiency too much, you'd give them the boot, fun or not. so you can say "it's about fun" but actions speak louder than words.
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Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.07.04 09:45:00 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:Anya Klibor wrote:You've never fought an actual war, Tora. You shouldn't be telling anyone how to play. You've never written anything remotely smart. You shouldn't be telling anyone what to write  lol, and still you fail at smacktalk. With the amount of practice you've had you should have accidentally got better at it by now. And lets face it, if BAW decced you, the best defense you would have is hiding in station since they would actually bring combat ships, something your members aren't allowed to fight as they are "too risky". Gotta keep that false efficiency up and all that. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.07.04 09:59:00 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:Lucas, I understand you have the urge to use other peoples success, as your own alliance has only failed in the wars between us. But no worries my special friend, we still loveeeeee youuuuuuu  Pointing out your failings is not using others success. Unlike you I don't cheer and pat myself on the back every time someone else accomplishes something, you know, like your great leader Gevlon does pretty much daily. It's a known fact that Marmite are poor at PvP, and if it came to an all out war with yourselves and a competent PvP group, the outcome is obvious. You'd hide until they went away.
And really? SMA have lost a war taking place in highsec where our only ships are poorly fit idiots running missions and industrial ships? How did you manage to win such an epic battle? One man corps could win a battle against us in highsec since we don't live there lol. If that's your greatest success story you really need to get out there a bit more. It's hardly a great advertisement for you guys as "mercs" (term used VERY loosely).
EDIT: sorry that was 2 paragraphs again. Here's a simpler version so you can understand: "Gevlon owns Marmite, marmite sucks at PvP but can farm undefended industrials and fap over them, Nightmare loves Kai" The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.07.04 10:05:00 -
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Sol epoch wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Tora Bushido wrote:Lucas, I understand you have the urge to use other peoples success, as your own alliance has only failed in the wars between us. But no worries my special friend, we still loveeeeee youuuuuuu  Pointing out your failings is not using others success. Unlike you I don't cheer and pat myself on the back every time someone else accomplishes something, you know, like your great leader Gevlon does pretty much daily. It's a known fact that Marmite are poor at PvP, and if it came to an all out war with yourselves and a competent PvP group, the outcome is obvious. You'd hide until they went away. And really? SMA have lost a war taking place in highsec where our only ships are poorly fit idiots running missions and industrial ships? How did you manage to win such an epic battle? One man corps could win a battle against us in highsec since we don't live there lol. If that's your greatest success story you really need to get out there a bit more. It's hardly a great advertisement for you guys as "mercs" (term used VERY loosely). Remind us who you are again please. I'm a nobody, just like all of you. I'm just man enough to admit it.
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Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.07.04 10:21:00 -
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Sol epoch wrote:Well good for you Mr nobody now run along to anonymity. I accept your concession of defeat.
Tora Bushido wrote:Lucas, come top Uedama and bring your best battle hauler/miner. We shall do a 1 vs 1 !  No joke, it could be fun. Take time of out my life to buckle to whims of a child? I think not baby puppy. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.07.04 12:50:00 -
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Sol epoch wrote:And again he goes back to his little null cave when an offer is made. lol, yes, that must be it. How about you fly all the way out to VFK then? Leave your docking rings and neutral logis behind. Oh wait, what's that? It's too far and through hostile space and an enormous waste of time? Shock horror.
Needless to say the usual marmite comeback of "you won't agree to my artarded suggestion therefore you lose" is still moronic.
Tora Bushido wrote:Man you already have no life as you are non stop posting on the forums, making blogs, replying to blogs, playing the market (mmm... that reminds me of someone). You might as well have some fun. And about the puppy..... feelings hurt  Not really non-stop. I only post on the forums when I'm bored and not at home or coding (usually the latter). I'd not even post here if it wasn't for the fact that you keep running around the forum spewing bad smacktalk and propaganda for your leader like a faithful pet. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.07.09 12:09:00 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:Yeh, like last time where they got 6 kills in 3 weeks  Only reason its hard to kill people like BAW, is because they hardly log on, don't have many players and when they do log on, they often fly together. Not complaining here, as its smart flying, but not easy to kill. Space warriors is much easier now, as you can see in their current merc war. Vengance inc alone was much harder for the same reasons as above. You say that, yet every war between marmite and BAW has been 1 sided in favour of BAW. When you do fight, you lose. That would suggest to me that as usual it's you guys hiding in the stations.
There is one way to prove it though. Dec BAW and actually kill them when you guys have fights. Then you KB vs them would be >0 at least. Actions speak louder than words, even when you have as many words as you do. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.07.09 16:35:00 -
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Fybs wrote:I'm sure if a client would pay us to dec them we would. and vice versa BAW probably would rather be paid to dec us instead of just doing it. Dec'ing each other for no reason when we both have clients to keep happy is pointless. we have nothing to prove to anyone. I know want Mym8 is capable of when WE want too and it mite shock even some of C&P  So if marmite are so capable, why are all of your wars with BAW completely one sided? No matter how many times you say that you would beat them, it means nothing without proof. We don't care if you dec them or not, and completely understand why you would not want to, but you can't claim you are tough enough to beat them when they've beaten you every time.
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Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.07.09 20:12:00 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:Do you even read what people write Lucas ? 
Tora Bushido wrote:Only reason its hard to kill people like BAW, is because they hardly log on, don't have many players and when they do log on, they often fly together. Yes I do, so prove it. Quit smacktalking badly like you do every day and prove that BAW woudn't crush you if you went toe to toe.
Tora Bushido wrote:Lucas Ignore mode on. Proceed as you wish, but don't expect not to be called out when you start chestbeating about wars that you clearly lost, with zero contest. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.07.10 14:59:00 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:One calls it chest beating, another calls it collecting tears.  It's really impossible to confuse the two. When you are claiming to be amazing, that's chest beating, regardless of if you think it's tear collection or not (little hint, in order for it to be tear collection, the other party needs to be upset. In this instance it seems only Marmite are upset.).
So back up your chest beating. Prove that you are as good as you say. Because the killboards, which you claim are the be all and end all of eve, show that BAW are phenomenally more powerful than marmite when you go toe to toe. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.07.11 08:44:00 -
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Seraph IX Basarab wrote:PL of bombers? You'll have to talk with mr. Price about that. But all the bs aside, all the blaming others for being booted out of so many corps for acting childishly, we still come to the main issue here. You'll smack marmite but you won't go fight them.
Why is that? Repeatedly banging on about how a single person won't go take on Marmite doesn't really prove anything, and I'm sure you know it. That Anya won't gather up a group of friends to go attack them doesn't change the fact that they are pretty dire as far as mercs go and in every encounter with a competent group of PvPers have been dunked 6 ways from Sunday. You can verify this yourself, seriously, go look.
Tora Bushido wrote:Thats why you have to play smart and avoid large fleet fights en hit them at times when they dont expect you. Baw does it to us, the same way Marmites does it to the CFC.
And that's why I have the alliance quote. Know when to fight and know when not. And yet when your >200 man alliance goes against a 5 man merc corp, you don;t fight, and where you do, you get dunked. And you think that shows enough competence for you to be able to smacktalk against them? lol You're just that guy that hides inside Hek station whining about how he's the best yet can't prove it, and always seems to blame the other person for his failings. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.07.13 13:10:00 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:Marmites, just turn ignore mode on for Lucas and Anyo. They cant be saved and we are repeating ourselves over and over (aka BOORRINGG). When they start reading and understanding again, we'll see if they are worth replying to. So in other words you have no ability to come back on the actual arguments presented and while you'll continue to bang on about how epic you are, you'd still get dunked by any of the other merc groups even if they are a fifth your size. Instead of trying to prove yourselves, you'd rather put your fingers in your ear and scream "LALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!". lol. You must have learned that from your leader. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2015.04.24 10:09:22 -
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Come now, be honest. Losses matter because you want to keep an artificially inflated KB ratio, which is why you choose low risk combat and boot people who take a risk and lose ships. It's not a bad thing, a lot of people do it, but let's not be putting lipstick on a pig.
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Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2015.04.24 11:22:43 -
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Fybs wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Come now, be honest. Losses matter because you want to keep an artificially inflated KB ratio, which is why you choose low risk combat and boot people who take a risk and lose ships. It's not a bad thing, a lot of people do it, but let's not be putting lipstick on a pig. Wise Lucas. As a proven pvper why don't you tell us what you consider high risk combat? BTW do you still get SRP for all ships you lose in the CFC when you deploy? IMO that's as low risk as it gets since you no you will get your Isk bk. Where exactly did I claim to be some form of elite PvPer? I have no problem accepting that the PvP we do in nullsec is low risk and that anything we lose gets replaced, I'm honest enough to tell it how it is.
Amusingly I didn't even claim it to be bad to choose low risk PvP (especially since there's no better rewards for choosing higher risk PvP in highsec), I only claimed it was bad to dress it up as more than it is, and you guys seem to have become awfully defensive over that. Apologies if I hit a nerve.
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Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2015.04.24 12:37:43 -
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Danalee wrote:You nullbears also go around pretending that your no risk f1 monkeying is the only form of PVP that matters, ever. So don't act all surprised when you are rightfully called on your bs. When did I ever claim that? Our PvP is low risk, as is yours. I'm just honest enough to admit it.
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Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2015.04.24 13:47:54 -
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Danalee wrote:Yours is risk free because srp and blob. Why is ours risk free? Is this a serious question? You really need to ask why high sec docking ring PvP is low risk?
Danalee wrote:And nothing about killboard padding anymore? Got skooled did ya  It has simply already been said, I was merely responding to what you wrote. We all know exactly how Marmite operate, and suggesting you don't KB pad is laughable. There's even indisputable evidence of it right here.
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Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2015.04.24 14:33:08 -
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Danalee wrote:My question is serious yes. you described the fact we will avoid docking rings as putting lipstick on a pig because all we do is low risk pvp... You are way to smart to not see the gaping hole in that reasoning, aren't you? Actually, I described you guys making excuses for why you boot people for having losses and putting lipstick on a pig. We all know how groups like yours value your killboards and for that reason you all aim to artificially inflate your killboard stats by cracking down on anyone that risks challenging combat or otherwise adds losses, and you aim to kill high value, low resistance targets. Like I said before, we all know this and it's fairly normal, so why not just call it what is is?
Danalee wrote:And we aren't supposed to shoot pods? That's new... Once you stop dropping the kitchen sink on an ibis/venture, we'll do that, mkay? You missed the joke. It's OK, you'll get it eventually.
Tora Bushido wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Is this a serious question? You really need to ask why high sec docking ring PvP is low risk? High-sec trade hub undocks are higher risk then anywhere else in highsec, as people know where you are and will just wait for you to get aggression, then blob you. Fleet fights you can prepare for, camps you can prepare for.... ROFL. I actually believe that you legitimately think this is true. That's the really sad part about this. Station combat only requires you to survive long enough to de-aggress and redock. 9 times out of 10 you have neutral logi around to help make sure that happens.
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Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2015.04.24 15:16:57 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:If this was true Lucas, would it make sense we just added a rule that forbids being on the trade hubs ? Ahaaa....  And please dont pretend to think you know anything about my policies. Yes, because you have some people terrible enough to die on trade hub station undocks. And we all know your policy on people that dare to lose ships in Marmite.
flakeys wrote:A bit like when i was laughing in gevlon's thread when members from SMA where making fun of MOA's pvp ability . You didn't get the clue then but you do now?That's double standards mate ... The difference there is that MoA really are pretty terrible. If they weren't, SMA wouldn't exist. We are pretty terrible at PvP and MoA live on our doorstep, and yet still they fail to accomplish their goal of stomping us out of the area, even while being handed ISK to replace their ships.
Tora Bushido wrote:We've started 12000+ wars with Marmites the last 2-3 years. Some of them were 500M/week and went on for more then a year. It made the war histo of Marmites lag when you open it. CCP Isk sink must be happy.  Just in case you were interested, it's 10857 wars as of last week for a combined total of 20922 weeks of war (256 mutual), with your longest war running for 62 weeks against Steels Front (war ID 290733). It's the anniversary of that war ending on Sunday. The 2nd longest is of course Goons (war ID 333314) for 61 weeks. So yes, indeed a lot of isk removed.
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Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2015.04.24 15:42:24 -
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flakeys wrote:Yup SMA is doing that allllllll by themselves , nothing to do with the largest coalition in the game backening you.Not at all ...
See , that's the thing i am talking about and even when pointed out you still do it. I'm not saying we aren't, but even when it's just us they don't bust though. If they were the elite PvPers they claim to be, they'd deal significantly more damage. BL were effective enough that they forced the CFC to pay them a ransom to get out of a station during the Fountain war, and they were smaller than MOA. I'll not be dragging this post any more off topic though.
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Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2015.04.24 16:10:18 -
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Danalee wrote:Fact of the matter is (and herewith I'll get the thread back on track for sure!);
- Hisec PVP'ers win each and every fight against nullbears. - Nullbears thus choose to not engage to avoid getting their feelings/epeen hurt. - Nullbears try to regain some form of cred by calling Hisec pvp'ers "Risk averse" Ad nauseam, ad infinitum. I'll agree that when you only fight the idiots who fly to highsec, more often than not in industrial ships, you win, well done! Fly out to nullsec and see how well you do.
And the end of the day, both sides are low risk PvP for different reasons. You may not want to admit it like we are willing to, but that's the way it is.
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